Monday morning inside the silos basement

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  1. Tom Friendly says:

    Monday morning break and enter

  2. Tom Friendly says:

    oh relax you its called a joke. don’t be all sour because Saundercook lost

  3. junctioneer says: (Author)

    sorry, not mad that Bill lost, just worried about a 1st time council member, although she has told me she up to the effort.

    Bill can be very benevolent with community projects helping when necessarily and letting people in the community get on.

    By the way Sara has stated her ward office will be in the Junction

    • Tom Friendly says:

      By the way it’s “SARAH” with an H.

      • Rodger says:

        Why are you worried about a first time councilor? Were you worried when Bill was a first time councilor? Out with the old in with the new, can Sarah possibly be any worse than Bill was?

    • Chris says:

      Here, I fixed it for you:

      Bill can be very useless with community projects, avoiding offering help when beneficial to his own motives and letting people in the community deal with problems themselves.

  4. Richard says:

    Robert is just worried because he put all his eggs in one basket, and Sarah just ran that basket over with a dump truck.

    • Junctioneer says:

      Incorrect I have a good relationship with her, in fact I have told a few times the reason for my choices

  5. Manny says:

    Have they started the demolition of the east silo yet ? or any idea when it is planned for?

    Thanks.

  6. David says:

    Demolition permit was issued November 4.

  7. A.R. says:

    I was surprised to see demolition start so soon. But it’s happening. The mystery of what was behind those strong concrete walls is anticlimactically revealed. The structure looked so permanent.

    Everyone: take some photos while you can for historical purposes.

  8. Bob says:

    Here is the link to the issued city demolition permit.

    http://app.toronto.ca/ApplicationStatus/details.do?folderRsn=2729812

  9. Jerry says:

    Mulock Blog contains some Updates from the St.Clair Avenue Study Meeting held on November 24, 2010.

    http://mulockresidents.blogspot.com/2010/11/st-clair-avenue-redesign-meeting-recap.html

    Saturday, November 27, 2010
    St. Clair Avenue Redesign Meeting Recap
    Manny posted in the comments a comprehensive overview of last week’s meeting regarding the redesign of St. Clair Avenue. This is a great recap and deserves to be highlighted here as it contains some solid information on the plans for the neighbouring area as well as some Mulock-pertinent updates which involve the potential re-zoning of some of our community from industrial use to residential!

    Here’s his report:

    I went to the St.Clair Avenue Study meeting on Nov 24,2010 and this is just a quick summary of the most important info mentioned.

    There will be a review of the St.Clair and Keele (South/East) Corner where the old Bengimin Moore Lands (6 Lloyd Street) for the entire corner starting in January 2011. The City is looking at potential changing the zoning from Industrial to Mixed Use which is a real good thing for the area and will cleanup that corner of St.Clair. I would expect this would also be applicable the Canada Bread Facility that is moving locations in 2011 as well.
    30 Weston Rd (Old Bungee Lands) the Boarding and Signage has started and construction to start shortly after this. The Complex is scheduled to be completed by Fall 2012. (http://www.trinity-group.com/?q=node/432 and http://www.trinity-group.com/index.php?q=node/464)
    The street paving at St.Clair and Gunns Road/Cobalt should be completed by the end of November 2010 and the widening of the road to start some time in 2011.
    The burnt down NY Pork facility at around St.Clair and Cobalt should be demolished within the next month and the permits should be issued within a week or two.
    No mention of the land where the Silo’s are being demolished.
    The presentation will be uploaded to this location once the City puts it up: http://www.toronto.ca/planning/stclair_keeleweston.htm
    Lots of good things happening in the area which are all a positive sign for the area.
    Thanks, Manny, for attending this meeting and sharing all this with the rest of us!

  10. Tommy says:

    Found this blog with some more info regarding the area. It also seems that the City has updated their presentation from the Nov 24, 2010 meeting.

    http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?6559-The-Stockyards-(30-Weston-Rd-St-Clair-retail-Trinity-2s-GreenbergFarrow)/page3

    St.Clair Avenue Study Final Public Meeting Presentation
    The presentation has been uploaded on the City of Toronto Website.

    http://www.toronto.ca/planning/stclair_keeleweston.htm

    What’s New

    Final Public Meeting – November 24, 2010

    Presentation at Public Meeting November 24, 2010 to Implement the Study Recommendations

  11. Manny says:

    The fencing at NY Pork site has gone up with LIONS Demolition doing the demo work. The site is now all fenced off and just a matter of time before it is demolished.

  12. Manny says:

    With the street widening taking place sometime this year ‘2011’ from two lanes to four lanes at St.Clair between Gunns Rd and Cobalt Avenue. There is no way that Corsetti meats will be able to park their trucks or rigs at the front of the building or anywhere on the site. I will not be surprised if Corsetti Meats redevelops their property or sells and moves out. Just a Thought.

  13. Manny says:

    The city is looking at rezoning the following through the “Official Plan Review” process that has already started for the “South/East” corner of St.Clair and Keele.

    There will be a review of the St.Clair and Keele (South/East) Corner where the old Bengimin Moore Lands (6 Lloyd Street) for the entire corner starting in January 2011. The City is looking at potential changing the zoning from Industrial to Mixed Use which is a real good thing for the area and will cleanup that corner of St.Clair. I would expect this would also be applicable the Canada Bread Facility that is moving locations in 2011 as well.

  14. Manny says:

    I heard Corsetti Meats will close down by the end of 2011.
    This is the plant on St.Clair near Gunns Road and Cobalt.

  15. Manny says:

    Here is an Article recently posted regarding Canada Bread and their new Hamilton facility.
    It seems that the Cawthra plant will be shutting down shortly since the article mentions production will be live by July2011 in the Hamilton plant and the Cawthra plant is the first of the three to shut down.

    There is also mention of the Condo Development “Terrasan” at 6 Lloyd Avenue which could come back since the main company that opposed the development is now leaving the area moving to Hamiltion for good. Who knows who will purchase their Cawthra plant and redevelop it or demolish it and rebuild something new ?
    The St.Clair and Keele “South/East” corner will definitely change in the coming years and get redeveloped since almost all the industrial is moving out or gone already.

    http://www.thespec.com/news/business/article/489249–canada-bread-plant-rising-like-a-fresh-loaf

    A factory many hope marks the start of a new food processing hub in Hamilton is rising in the city’s south-east corner like a loaf of bread in a pan.

    The $100-million Canada Bread bakery under construction now in the Red Hill Business Park will bring 300 jobs to the city and is expected to start production of its first loaves in July.

    At 385,000 square feet it will also be the largest biggest bakery in Canada. The bakery will produce white and brown bread, rolls and tortillas – mostly Dempster’s brand – on seven production lines. The plant is to be in full production by next year.

    For Barry McLean, president of Canada Bread’s fresh bakery division, it’s a project that will be good for the city as well as his company.

    “This lets us take our assets to a caliber that will take us into the 21st and 22nd centuries,” he said. “Our old plants were very high cost and there was a limit to which we could take the safety standards and other things.”

    Inside, the plant is still very much a work in progress. A few gleaming machines have been installed, although the company says they are proprietary and won’t discuss what they’ll eventually produce. In the room where flour and salt deliveries arrive white silos stand ready for their first loads. The room where the dough will be made is half the size of a football field. About 120 construction and trades workers are employed on the site.

    The new Hamilton bakery will replace three older facilities in Toronto, aging plants that were being hemmed in by neighbours who didn’t want to live next to a factory, no matter how nice it smelled.

    “The plants had operations spread over several floors, their production lines criss-crossed each other and were very inefficient,” said Walter Miller, the division’s senior vice president. “There was a condo development proposed next to one plant that we had to fight all the way to the OMB.

    “Our trucks were also on the road and our neighbours weren’t too pleased with that,” he added. “We just didn’t have the industrial footprint we needed to expand in Toronto. There was just not a lot of land for a building this size in the GTA.”

    The Hamilton plant occupies 25 acres; the only other place that had that much serviced land was available was in Halton Hills. The site will be the anchor tenant in a new industrial park at Nebo and Twenty roads with access to highways leading back to customers in Toronto.

    Canada Bread offered jobs in Hamilton to all of its Toronto employees and about 130 accepted the offer. The company will need to hire about 170 workers locally. That’s expected to start soon. The company has said those jobs will pay between $45,000 and $65,000 a year.

    Miller said it shouldn’t be hard to find the kind of workers the company wants: a skilled labour force was one of the chief factors that brought he plant to Hamilton in the first place.

    The executives also had high praise for city staff, especially from the economic development department, who helped cement the deal in a matter of weeks last year, allowing construction to start in April.

    “The city just did an awesome job working with us on this,” Miller said. “You could tell they really wanted us here.”

    Canada Bread is majority owned by Maple Leaf Foods — which tried unsuccessfully to locate a pork processing plant in the industrial park in 2005 – and already employs about 340 people here in its Stoney Creek pasta facility and its Ancaster bakery. Canada Bread makes fresh baked goods, frozen partially baked goods, fresh pasta and sauces, and employs 8,500 people in 40 plants in Canada, the U.S. and the United Kingdom.

    The Hamilton plant is part of a five-year, $755 million program of capital spending by the company aimed at improving profits and competitiveness.

    The company has said it expects suppliers will want to locate near the bakery, raising the city’s hopes of sparking a food processing hub in the area – a goal Mayor Bob Bratina recently highlighted in his state of the city speech to the Chamber of Commerce.

    sarnold@thespec.com

    905-526-3496

  16. Manny says:

    Here is an Article recently posted regarding Canada Bread and their new Hamilton facility.
    It seems that the Cawthra plant will be shutting down shortly since the article mentions production will be live by July2011 in the Hamilton plant and the Cawthra plant is the first of the three to shut down.

    There is also mention of the Condo Development “Terrasan” at 6 Lloyd Avenue which could come back since the main company that opposed the development is now lea! ving the area moving to Hamiltion for good. Who knows who will purchase their Cawthra plant and redevelop it or demolish it and rebuild something new ?
    The St.Clair and Keele “South/East” corner will definitely change in the coming years and get redeveloped since almost all the industrial is moving out or gone already.

    http://www.thespec.com/news/business/article/489249–canada-bread-plant-rising-like-a-fresh-loaf

    A factory many hope marks the start of a new food processing hub in Hamilton is rising in the city’s south-east corner like a loaf of bread in a pan.

    The $100-million Canada Bread bakery under construction now in the Red Hill Business Park will bring 300 jobs to the city and is expected to start production of its first loaves in July.

    At 385,000 square feet it will also be the largest biggest bakery in Canada. The bakery will produce white and brown bread, rolls and tortillas – mostly Dempster’s brand – on seven production lines. The plant is to be in full production by next year.

    For Barry McLean, president of Canada Bread’s fresh bakery division, it’s a project that will be good for the city as well as his company.

    “This lets us take our assets to a caliber that will take us into the 21st and 22nd centuries,” he said. “Our old plants were very high cost and there was a limit to which we could take the safety standards and other things.”

    Inside, the plant is still very much a work in progress. A few gleaming machines have been installed, although the company says they are proprietary and won’t discuss what they’ll eventually produce. In the room where flour and salt deliveries arrive white silos stand ready for their first loads. The room where the dough will be made is half the size of a football field. About 120 construction and trades workers are employed on the site.

    The new Hamilton bakery will replace three older facilities in Toronto, aging plants that were being hemmed in by neighbours who didn’t wan! t to live next to a factory, no matter how nice it smelled.

    “The plants had operations spread over several floors, their production lines criss-crossed each other and were very inefficient,” said Walter Miller, the division’s senior vice president. “There was a condo development proposed next to one plant that we had to fight all the way to the OMB.

    “Our trucks were also on the road and our neighbours weren’t too pleased with that,” he added. “We just didn’t have the industrial footprint we needed to expa! nd in Toronto. There was just not a lot of land for a building this size in the GTA.”

    The Hamilton plant occupies 25 acres; the only other place that had that much serviced land was available was in Halton Hills. The site will be the anchor tenant in a new industrial park at Nebo and Twenty roads with access to highways leading back to customers in Toronto.

    Canada Bread offered jobs in Hamilton to all of its Toronto employees and about 130 accepted the offer. The company will need to hire about 170 workers locally. That’s expected to start soon. T! he company has said those jobs will pay between $45,000 and $65,000 a year.

    Miller said it shouldn’t be hard to find the kind of workers the company wants: a skilled labour force was one of the chief factors that brought he plant to Hamilton in the first place.

    The executives also had high praise for city staff, especially from the economic development department, who helped cement the deal in a matter of weeks last year, allowing construction to start in April.

    “The city just did an awesome job working with us on this,” Miller said. “You could tell they really wanted us here.”

    Canada Bread is majority owned by Maple Leaf Foods — which tried unsuccessfully to locate a pork processing plant in the industrial park in 2005 – and already employs about 340 people here in its Stoney Creek pasta facility and its Ancaster bakery. Canada Bread makes fresh baked goods, frozen partially baked goods, fresh pasta and sauces, and employs 8,500 people in 40 plants in Canada, the U.S. and the United Kingdom.

    The Hamilton plant is part of a five-year, $755 million program of capital spending by the company aimed at improving profits and competitiveness.

    The company has said it expects suppliers will want to locate near the bakery, raising the city’s hopes of sparking a food processing hub in the area – a goal Mayor Bob Bratina recently highlighted in his state of the city speech to the Chamber of Commerce.

    sarnold@thespec.com

    905-526-3496

  17. Manny says:

    I recently heard that “Tridel” has purchased or is in the process of purchasing the Canada Bread Facility at 130 Cawthra Avenue.

    Has anyone heard the same thing?

  18. Manny says:

    This link shows some comments regarding the Canada Bread Facility and the possibility of Condo development.

    http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?606-Heintzman-Place-(formerly-Village-By-High-Park-Junction-Options-23s-Burka)&p=502134#post502134

    Comment # 1

    AreaResident

    Posts:10I agree Mulock Avenue is a nice street compare to what it was say 10 plus years ago. The street and people living
    on the street have cleaned up and a lot quieter then before. It has a lot of potential and nice homes as well and
    plenty of opportunity to becoming even better. A lot of the homes have been renovated and who knows
    what will become of the street with all the recent developments in the area “Mall Complex, Potential Condo’s etc..

    Thanks

    Just a Thought.

    Comment # 2

    urbandreamer

    recession proof
    Join Date:Apr 2007
    Location:on the road
    Posts:8,450When Canada Bread closes–c. early 2012–expect that condo dev between the bakery and St Clair to go ahead. The C.B. site itself would make a nice loft conversion with maybe 8-10s of modern condos above–like those on Carlaw.

    Yesterday I noticed tons of youngish folk walking from Dundas to their new condos–and only the shorter tower is occuppied. Gonna really add to the vibrancy of the Junction as developers push for more condos in the area.

    Comment # 3

    AreaResident

    Posts:10I agree, I actually heard from some people in the area that Tridel is purchasing or in the process of purchasing/partnering up with Canada Bread
    for the bread facility at 130 Cawthra Avenue. I also noticed this on a blog or two as well, who knows this could happen. I actually heard Canada Bread
    will shutdown the north side of the plant sometime in April – June 2011 and the South end of the plant in November 2011. The new plant in Hamilton
    starts full production in June 2011 so this sounds pretty good to be true.

    Thanks

  19. Manny says:

    So it seems that the permit for the Demolition on NY PORK has been issued.

    http://app.toronto.ca/ApplicationStatus/details.do?folderRsn=2696631

    Building Application Status

    Application: Demolition Folder (DM) Status: Ready for Issuance

    Location: 2306 ST CLAIR AVE W
    TORONTO ON M6N 1K8

    Ward 11: York South-Weston

    Application#: 10 244369 DEM 00 DM Accepted Date: Aug 23, 2010

    Project: Industrial Processing Plant Demolition

    Description: To demolish two storey vacant industrial building damaged by fire in 2006 without proposal for replacement building.

  20. Manny says:

    It seems that the St.Clair Avenue Study meeting last night on March 22, 2011 at the Etobicoke Civic Centre went well and council approved it for the area between Keele and Scarlett Rd. The road will be widen and Correstti meats will be moving out of the area as well.

  21. Manny says:

    6 Lloyd Avenue (Formely the Old Bengim Moore Plant) now owned by Terrasan was cleaned up months ago after many residents complained, the city came and fenced off the area and cleaned up all the bush/weeds and garbage etc.. Now the site has a mountain of concrete/metal piled up that was dumped their from other locations. I beleive if residents complain to the “City of Toronto” this can also get removed off the
    site and cleaned up again like before.
    I live near the site and have already voiced my opion on this matter and it seems that others also have called the city about this situation.

    City or Toronto contact #
    Phone : 311 or 416-338-0TTY (0889)

  22. Manny says:

    This seems to be the phone number if you can not reach it by 311.

    Phone outside city limits: 416-392-CITY (2489)
    (can be used within Toronto if you can’t reach 311)

  23. Manny says:

    Rumour is that NRT/NRI (National Rubber Technologies) financially is not doing so good especially with the auto industry not doing so good. Who knows how long they will last or maybe the company that purchases (Canada Bread) site might also purchase NRT site as well, rumour is “Tridel”.

    This is just rumours but I have heard them from multiple sources from people working at the two plants and also those living around the area and developing in the area.

    Just a thought,

  24. CD says:

    The burning-rubber stench from NRT is a blight on the neighbourhood.

  25. Manny says:

    The Permit for the Demolition on NY PORK was issued today.

    http://app.toronto.ca/ApplicationStatus/details.do?folderRsn=2696631

    Building Application Status

    Application: Demolition Folder (DM) Status: Permit Issued

    Location: 2306 ST CLAIR AVE W
    TORONTO ON M6N 1K8

    Ward 11: York South-Weston

    Application#: 10 244369 DEM 00 DM Issued Date: Apr 4, 2011

    Project: Industrial Processing Plant Demolition

    Description: To demolish two storey vacant industrial building damaged by fire in 2006 without proposal for replacement building.

    DM Building Inspection Pt3
    Inspection Vardy, Nelson Contact Info

  26. Manny says:

    Found this in one of the St.Clair Avenue Study documents, it seems that Corsetti Meats owns all the lands from Pharma Plus to Colbat Avenue which includes the car lot. They have been granted Mixed Use (Commercial/Residential) for the lands and will have to move locations once the street widening occurs later this year. There is lots of possiblities for these lands and the demo of NY Pork across the street for Commercial/Residential development.

    It also seems more retail is coming into the StarBanks Site location as well.

    Comments from the St.Clair Avenue Study Document.

    Corsetti Meats

    The lands at 2237-2255 St. Clair Avenue West are owned by Corsetti Meats

    The operation does not currently occupy the entire building and may be required to
    relocate when a scheduled road widening compromises its loading area on the
    St. Clair Avenue frontage. The owners of Corsetti meats also own the adjacent
    property at 2283 St. Clair Avenue West that contains a used car lot.

    Starbank Developments

    Starbank Developments leases the lands at 2133 St. Clair Avenue West and 88 Ethel
    Avenue that contains a one-storey retail complex with extensive surface parking
    anchored by a Metro supermarket

    Starbank Development has recently received a Committee of Adjustment approval of a
    further retail expansion on the site and will soon enter into a site plan agreement and
    obtain building permits

  27. Manny says:

    – Today the Signage for 30 Weston Rd went up, which tells me construction will start shorty for the 650, 000 square foot Mall Complex that there spending roughly 210 million dollars on.

    Link

    http://www.trinity-group.com/?q=node/432

    http://www.trinity-group.com/index.php?q=node/464

    – Also the “ST.Clair Avenue Study” from Keele to Scarlett Rd got final approval during the April 12,2011 City of Toronto Council meeting with the possibility of some minor ammendants at a later date.

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